September 05, 2006 - Msg 45061:
Hey Folks

Lucy-Boy, that is a pickle you find yourself in. A wouldn't dare to advise on it. Not because I don't care only because I don't know. A good friend is important but at what cost. Also, your son could be a good influence on this boy, but, you don't to put too much weight on your son's shoulders. I'll be praying for ya.

As for Ozzy, simply stating how a person is behaving is not the same as judging ones internal soul. It's just not. If someone is behaving like a jerk they're simply behaving like a jerk. If someone is behaving decently they are behaving decently. That being said, there may very well be a side to Ozzy that none of us knows. Maybe, he is a devote Christian. Maybe, he does not know that his public behavior is oafish but that does not prevent his public behavior from being oafish.

spot-The meal sounds great.

See ya in a while,
auh2o
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45062:
That was supposed to read eternal soul not internal. Sorry.
auh2o
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45063: Hi All.
Nice day some sun, but no rain.
Ky girl- on the line of Ohio and West Virginia. In wheeling you are not fare from where I'm that is in Clarksburg.
I have some family in Ohio.
Mavis and Mille who mouch of the storm did you git.

(THE PLACE THAT I CALL HOME )
THIS IS THE PLACE THAT i CALL HOME-
THERE'S ONLY ME- i LIVE ALONE.
accepting time that lofe has lent,
i send my days in sweet content.
i've god and natuer very near;
they make each moment sweet and dear.
it's home to me- no catle grand-
and yet I love this spot of land.
each magic day, i'm up at dawn.
before the dark of night is gone.
it's lovely here neath skies of blue
with cares and worries very few .
I treasue every day that's mine,
the moments filled with glowing time,
the sun, the moon,each cotton cloud,
I thrill to joys that I'm allowed.
I find I'm really not alone...
I love this place that I call.

PRAY FOR ALL WHO CAN USED THIM.
LOVE TOM.

September 05, 2006 - Msg 45064:
Thanks TOM, that was nice, real nice.
Colt, i'm ritche here...job hunting on monster.
That was a good one you told the troops. It's a keeper.
AUh20, dont often disagree and dont want a moulage, but the Word says that we cannot just be hearers of the word we must also be DOERS. Also, if we have repented and removed the plank in our own eye, then Jesus said we darn well better remove the splinter in our neighbor's eye. Many folks kinda pass by that verse, but it's pretty clear. Sure, nobody is perfect, but as stated here, if we give into "relativity" as is happening in the world today, we will soon be in a world of hurt. OK my box slides back under bandstand.
Spot, MD - Kasey K catching up!
Boo- Now i will have to see that ep again!
Idelle- wow a porch swing! Look out for Andy making advances! ha
DWF- If you freeze the Ball Game ep you will see that yes, despite helen's staged photos, Opie really is out!! yikes. He is indeed tagged.
Rob's hat on the headboard is pretty funny for sure! ha Separate beds and all! ha
Possum, after all the antibiotics, be sure to ramp up on the good bacteria etc, for real!
you need to replenish!
KYgirl, now that you have a new ISP, hope all going better.
Steve Irwin had a freak accident. He often said he would never put himself in jeopardy because of his love for his wife and kids. It was very unsual for a ray to be there! God rest his soul.
He also had a wonderful love of animals.
Lucy- seek that counseling for sure!
Whew, I think i'm caught up!
MDC
"It's impossible to move his jawbone and his scissors at the same time!"
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45065: I never thought of it that way, MDC, but you are right, the rest of the verse says that after you have removed the beam from your own eye, then you can see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother's eye. Clearly, he means for us to do this if we are in the right place spiritually to do so (with love, of course). I think the problem is that most of us have our own issues and aren't always in the position to help someone else. Sometimes our motives aren't the best.

Thanks for that poem, TOM. I enjoyed it.

Got to go finish dinner.

Boo
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45066: I agree MDC,it sure does say that.boo,I agree with you also,sometimes we all have alot going on in our lives.tom,beautiful poem,and,you are right,I'm not too far from Clarksburg,I've been through there a couple of times about 6 years ago.Went through Phillipi too.[Hope I spelled that right]Auh20,that was good advice you gave,Lucy sure has her hands full.Like you said,a friend at what cost.We had the same type of situation with my 10 yr old daughter,ther were a couple of kids on this street that I had to keep my daughter from playing with.Well.gotta close-ky girl
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45067: Good sweep Lucy!...im trimming shrubs in the dark!...bet this is gona come out a hoot!..back in a bit...SPOT
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45068: MDC Kasey is in such a bad position for the chase...has won 5 cup races this season [more than anybody] and 2 of the drivers ahead of him in the quest have not one the first one this year...somethings got to be done....SPOT
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45069: Good evening, everyone. I slept this whole beautiful day away, after working 12 hours last night. Doggone it, I hate when that happens, because I'm off tonight, and now will be awake all night, since I slept all day! I live in a perpetual state of jet lag.

Sorry, Boo, my response back there wasn't intended as a lecture toward anyone, just a defense of my own position. That old "judgment" question is a tough one, and has been used by the devil to guilt Christians for a long time. We will often put up with a lot of bad behavior in order to avoid being called judgmental. It runs through our lives, from relationships between neighbors to relationships between nations. It's the basis for our country's fear of "racial profiling". Non-Christian nations have no such restrictions, they "profile" freely. We, on the other hand, allow radicals to blow up our planes because we're too "non-judgmental" to yank them off our planes when they don't look quite right. My husband used to say, "If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, there's a very strong possibility that it's a duck!" I know you've heard that before, but it's true, nevertheless.

If your child is being shown pornography by another child, you are absolutely justified in removing that influence from your child's life. This does not pronounce judgment on that person's soul, or imply that God cannot save them. He can, and He will, if asked. The question is, has or will that person ask? Only God knows. Meantime, we observe the daily behavior and as good parents, we remove what we perceive to be a destructive influence from our child's life.

Next step? Yep, MDC is right. We should try to influence the wrong-doer to change. How this may be done is a tough question, and the answers are influenced by the situation, but sometimes it's as simple as living our own life in an exemplary manner.

To sum up - we must carefully define "judge". Auh2o stated it clearly. Judging behavior is not the same as judging the condition of someone's soul. While we can look at some extreme examples and be pretty sure that their behavior does reflect the state of their soul, we must never forget that God loves that person and can and will change them forever, if asked. It happens. Think of the thief on the cross.

Personally, I'm glad that my opinion about someone doesn't influence their salvation, because if it did, that would mean that the converse would be true, and I'm quite sure there are some who think I don't stand a chance of seeing the pearly gates! (teehee) Sugarplum says hey! --Romeena
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45070: Aw, I doubt that, Ro, ha! I am a bit confused on this issue, though. I value your opinion and spiritual maturity but I don't understand something. Awhile back, Me-They and myself tried gently and (I hope) lovingly to tell Barnwannabe that his relationship with his girlfriend might be harming him or her and as I recall, your response was that we shouldn't judge because no sin is worse than the next. Now I'm really confused. Were we wrong to say anything when we had the right intention? Was that judging? Not sure sometimes what to do but it's hard not to tall someone you care about that they are doing something that the bible says can hurt them.

Boo
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45071: ...Of course maybe I misunderstood you. Anyway, I would appreciate it if you could clarify please. We can always learn from each other. Thanks.

Boo
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45072: I understand your question, I think, and I believe it takes us right back to the distinction between judging behavior and judging the condition of someone's soul. Judging behavior is unavoidable. We do it every day, and as I said before, we'd better! We would be irresponsible as parents if we didn't observe and judge the behavior of those who influence our children. Perhaps it would help if we used the term "evaluate" rather than "judge". Moving on, our laws cause us as a society to "judge" people every day. When their behavior is held up to the standard set by laws, we must decide whether it is acceptable or not. We have established courts to carry this out.

Now, to your question above. No, we were not wrong to express our concern to a friend. We believe the behavior to be destructive, and counter to the ideal established by God, and we said so. Also, as I recall, our comments were in response to a question posed by the individual involved, we didn't just go charging in on our holy white horse. My response was related to judging the condition of one's soul. That, we cannot do, that's God's prerogative. It's also true that He doesn't consider one sin as worse than another. Sin is a state of rebellion against God, whether it's murder or gossip or whatever. God said don't do those things. Man sees degrees of transgression, and punishes accordingly. God only sees us as being in a state of rebellion, or as covered by the redeeming blood of Jesus. That redemptive covering is only acquired through faith and acceptance of Him. "For by grace are ye saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast."

I was saying that while we can perceive a behavior as being destructive to an individual or a society, and we have an obligation to try to help the individual correct it, we cannot and must not think that we know the state of someone's soul.

It's an age-old question, but still can be summed up, I think. We must "hate the sin, but love the sinner." And we must remember that God does not see degrees of sin. Keeping that in mind will keep us from feeling too holy ourselves.

Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45073: Hey my Friend Romeena and auh2o, Boo,Asa,TOM,[thanks for the poem],fg,hazel,mil,big maude,lucy,colt,Rev,"CHUCK" and all my friends...Ro you speak good words thats all im gona say....lets have a snack...breakfast at night [light] bacon and eggs and toast...SPOT
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45074: Right, I am reminded of the scripture that talks about confronting others about sin in humility, taking heed lest ye fall (or something like that). Thanks for the clarification. You know, Paul especially was very frank with people and said some very harsh things to some who were against God or who "held the truth in unrighteousness"....something to think about. I really believe there are some people out there who are evil in all their ways. The bible talks about how things were in the days of Noah when men's thoughts were continually evil. It's hard to accept that but it is possible. I suppose noone is beyond God's reach but some simply have a love for the darkness and hate the light ("...lest their evil deeds be exposed."). I pray I am never one of them.

Boo
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45075: Oh, hey there SPOT. I didn't see you. Hope you are having a good evening.

Boo
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45076: By the way, where in the world is Hazel? If you are out there Hazel, please check in. I miss you. So many folks are missing these days but at least once in awhile some come back (like Idelle).

Boo
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45077: Well, I hope that helped a little. I don't claim to be an expert, but I do know my own heart (most of the time.) I was raised to believe that while we can and must judge behavior at times, we cannot judge the person. --Romeena
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45078:
Hey Porch,

Wow, who'd have guessed we would have devoted this much space to the likes of Ozzy.

MDC- I agree with you 100%. My intent was not to dismiss what Ozzy has done, my tongue was firmly in check. I would tend to think that The Oz might not be too devote. I only meant to say that judging bad behavior should be no different from when we judge good behavior. To have good behavior we need to acknowledge that there is bad behavior. I took Romeena's remake as a simply off the cuff observation, not an attempt to pitch him into the lake of fire. And, I often wondered the same larger point she was trying to make. MDC, Keep that soap box out, I learn something every time.

Romeena & MDC- You two have mentioned two of my absolute favorite verses, "plank in our own eye" and "the thief on the cross."

God Bless,
auh2o
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45079:
Hey spot, Boo, ky girl, Romeena, MDC, Tom.

Ok, what do you folks think about Madonna. JUST KIDDING!

Romeena-Your "charging in on our holy white horse" comment reminds me of something a friend of mine told me quite a while back. He said, you Baptist's have to be careful when you are attempting to "Save" someone. If someone's house is on fire and you rush in to save him and the whole time you're telling him his house is on fire you are also slapping him about the face, he is only going to notice you are slapping him.

auh2o
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45080: Hey all!!!

Prayers continue for those who need them.

Hope all is well tonight!!!

Lucy: To answer your question, yes...I have been quiet. I'm looking into different jobs, and so forth, not sure what field I want to go into, but I'm just about sick of the Bar/Diner thing, and I want a job of my own, where I don't have to be there every waking minute!!! I look for jobs, hold Fan Club meetings, I've been spending weekends at what I call fanclub HQ(headquarters), but is really my Aunt and Uncle's ocean front palace!!! I mean it when I say palace, too. They have a HUGE house that overlooks the water, and maids, and buttlers, and I love it there, I always have!!!

Keep the prayers coming for me, and I'll do the same for you.

Barnwannabe.
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45081: Hey there Mrs Boo and auh20 and my good friend Romeena...well speaking of Church things ...My Mom and Dad went to a good old Foot Washing at a friends Church last night!....have not talk to them to find out how it went....have heard of them when I was young but not in my later years of life....Miss Sherry has heard of them...yall?...SPOT
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45082: BWB what is your age if you dont mind me asking?
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45083: Sure SPOT, I have heard of foot washings. I have even participated in a couple. Once when I was about 20 and then a year or so ago at a women's retreat. As I recall, both were really sweet experiences. It is extremely humbling to allow someone else to wash your feet and a blessing to wash someone else's. As a nurse, when I used to work in the ICU, I had to bathe alot of bed-bound people and I always took special care with their feet. It was kind of my way of blessing them, I guess. I know some people get kind of grossed out at the thought, but as a nurse it was about the least gross thing I had to do to people, believe me. I have never been bothered by caring for people who need it, no matter what they need. As kind of a funny side-note, years ago when I was a young nurse, I was working in a small 6 bed ICU and most of the patients were very sick, alot of them were post heart attack and were not able to get out of bed to shower so we bathed them in bed. One day, one of my nurse friends who was a strong Catholic came to me very disturbed. She said she had a big favor to ask me. It turned out that the priest of her parish was one of our heart attack patients and had been assigned to her. She was overwhelmed at the idea of having to bathe her preist so of course I bathed him for her. Kind of funny.

Wow, BWB, Aunt and Uncle's sounds like a great place. Thanks for the prayers, by the way...prayers for you, too.

The subject of Madonna, hmmm.....better keep quiet on this one, Auh2o, ha!

Boo
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45084: Yes, Spot, I've heard of them. Many people think we Baptists are deeply nvolved in such things, but that's not true. I had only heard of it, had never witnessed it, until I went to Mongolia the second time. The first evening we were there, after dinner, the missionary with whom we work, and his wife, brought out basins of water and towels, and those dear people went around the room, on their knees, and washed the feet of any of us who would permit it. Their point, of course, was to demonstrate to us that we were there as servants of the Lord, and our purpose was to aid and serve the poor people of Mongolia, and that our attitude should be one of humility and servanthood. Trust me, as I sat there with tears washing my face while Jerry washed my feet, I got the point.

The foot-washing activity is not something that I believe should be done often, lest it become commonplace and taken too lightly. It may never happen to me again, but in that place, at that time, it carried an impact that is almost impossible to describe. Just as Jesus humbled himself and washed the feet of his disciples, so did that missionary, that servant of God, humble himself and illustrate so clearly to us the concept that we are all servants, in the service of the Most High. It was a moment that I'll never forget.

You're right, Auh2o, my comment about Ozzie was a random one. He simply represented all of those people who walk this earth and cause us to wonder why? His ultimate destination does not depend upon my opinion, but only upon his relationship with God, and I cannot know what that is, or might become. By the way, that "might become" is very important. One never knows. However, at this point in time, in my humble opinion, he is pitiful, and seemingly pretty much a waste of space. And still God loves him, and wants him to come to Him. Isn't that wonderful? It's what keeps me going, because I know that there are others who might look at me and my puny efforts, and consider me a waste of space also. --Romeena
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45085: Sorry, Boo, I didn't mean to trip over you. I agree, I'll leave Madonna alone. As for patient care, like you I've done things that would gross out some folks here. It's a calling, and when you're doing what you believe God has called you to do, nothing is beneath you.

What a lovely thought, your paying special attention to patients' feet, and considering it a blessing. I love that idea. I've scrubbed many a crusty old foot, and massaged lotion into them, even carefully trimmed the nails, and didn't mind it at all, but I never thought of it as blessing them. What a neat concept!

Like you, I've done other personal-care things that are best not described here, and it has never been a problem. Some things have to be done, and nurses are there to do it. It's easier than one might think.

Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45086: Hey all, just quikly saying hi!

Dont have time for much more though, so bye for now.

Deputy Warren Ferguson
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45087: Thanks good friends Boo nd Romeena....about the foot washing that is...gona look into it...hey DWF....Opie is just WILD...kitten I guess..yall get those pics into Ro now...guess the lake calls again tomorrow before my work week starts...the and fri and the weekend...well back in a bit ...got an old VHS of Andy in...SPOT
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45088: where is everybody?.....breakfast will be at waffle house on ME...anything ya want Asa!...Ro and Boo be there!...SPOT "the talking dog of this here porch"..
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45089:
Hello everyone. Just got home from Tn.and wanted to check in. Wow...we've had a good discussion here tonight.
Ro...thanks...some very good thoughts. God does love each one of us...sinners and all. But yes He hates the sin. As for if a person is a Christian or not...we need only to look at the fruit.(a pear tree does not produce peaches) That's not judgement, that's Bible.

Thank God we can come here as friends (brothers and sisters) and help each other stir our minds.

Boo...that is such a great example of a calling in the nursing field. You know we all could learn a lesson from that for our everyday walk.

Spot...looking forward to the waffle house.

Prayers for you all. Have a great nights rest. See ya tomorrow.
Blessings...-REV.
September 05, 2006 - Msg 45090: I'm rightcheer, SPOT! Hey porch. Been mighty scarce here lately. For my last chemo, my port had a problem, so they gave it in my arm....now my arm and hand are in constant pain, and part of my hand is paralyzed, so typing is difficult. Been catching up on y'all when I can, but during Ernesto my laptop died. My wonderful hubby got me a new one today, so here I am. Just want to say again how much I love this place and how much y'all mean to me, each and every one of you. Some days the porch is like an oasis in the dessert. So, thanks everyone. I count you all among my blessings every day.

Millie
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45091: boy,I love the discussions on this porch!i always learn something.Spot,i've heard of foot washings,never been to one though.I read that the amish,or,I should say ,some of the amish have foot washings once or twice a year.I know other churches have them too,i've just never been to one.Millie,sending up prayers for you,I agree,this porch is like an oasis in the desert1Talk to you all later,prayers for all-ky girl
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45092: Spot,you out fishing again?-ky girl
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45093: Millie, Prayers for you dear. You are such a strength to me.

Asa
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45094: HI ALL.
Millie prayering for you.
Go to see the Doc today to fine out about the blood test .

LOVE TOM.

September 06, 2006 - Msg 45095: Thanks Millie, I am so glad we can be a good place for you to come. You are a great blessing to us, too. So sorry about your hand and arm. I pray the Lord will bring you some relief and strengthen you.

Really good thoughts, Romeena.

Gotta go take the kids to school, be back later today..

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45096: Prayers for your doctor's appointmen, TOM.

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45097:
Morning Porch

Just wondering if anyone has seen this end of the porch in the news lately. We've been on most the national news outlets. There is an escaped convict causing all kinds of trouble in the small towns around these parts. He's shot 3 New York State Troopers, killing one of them. I'm embarrassed to say the some in the community, I'm guessing less educated, are actually supporting this killer. He's been on the run for 5 months now but the area is so rural the police are having a very hard time catching him. News reporters are comparing this clown to Eric Rudolph.
I don't know if anyone is interested but here's the latest story about the case. Sorry, I don't have the HTML wizardry of Poor Horatio, but, you can copy and paste if you'd like.
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060906/1018686.asp

Millie-I agree with Asa, you are an inspiration and we love hearing from.

Boo-I just got back from our first school run this year.

Tom-Thinking about ya.

Take care,
auh2o
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45098: How was it trying to get back into the school groove, Auh20? I read the article you posted, how terrible! Could the guy be loose in your area? Hard to believe there could be nuts out there helping this guy. How stupid.

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45099: Morning Rev,Boo,Ro,TOM, auh2o and all...yea fg gona hit the lake again...the fishing is good...lunch will be on you Rev!...where and when?...SPOT
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45100: Mornin' Friends,
Rev- I'll some sort of soup. I just got my teeth cleaned and they hurt!
Spot- Have fun fishing.
APB- Fungirl!
Tom- Please let us know if there's anything specific we should be praying about after the blood test.
Auh20- I live in a state of denial so I do not watch the news. I had no idea that was happening. We had Eric Rudolph in our neck of the woods (Atlanta) at one time and I know its scary. Keep your family safe.
Romeena- You have nice and wise comments.
Boo- Isn't it nice that we have people to learn from on this porch?
Millie- Are they going to put in another port? My husband is a naturopathic doctor, but also a phelbotomist and he puts ports in quite a bit for chelation. I hear they can be tricky.
Spot- My best friend growing up went to a Separate Baptist church and they did foot washings. They were certainly holy rollers. I'm not complaining because when I went to their bible camp is when I was saved.
DWF- Quick hey to you.
BWB- Besides working in a bar, what other work would you be interested in pursuing? Monster.com has some great career ideas.
MDC- Is your new job still going well?
Mavis- Ya doin' alright? We haven't heard from ya in a day or so.
Please continue the prayers for our family. Nicholas' violence took to a new level. I think he needs psychiatric help not just counseling. What I don't understand is he didn't have this behavior but 3 or 4 times this summer, while its every other day or more now. Last night he pushed me and knocked me down and threatened to jump off our balcony. He called Bryson spoiled brat and was cursing. He was so hysterical because he knew he'd messed and I would tell hubby. I said I can't do this anymore and tried to get him to go to bed, but he wouldn't. Its almost like he's bipolar. I'm scared we're ruining Bryson to help Nick. What's your advice?
Have to get busy with phone calls. I have to find a way to get him/us help.
Have a wonderful, Mayberry day!
Blessings to you and yours,
~Lucy
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,...who walk according to the Spirit. -Romans 8:1, NKJV
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45101: Lucy, if he is hurting others or threatening to hurt himself, do something NOW. He needs help immediately. Talk to your pediatrician and get the name of a child psychiatrist asap. Please don't put it off. Despite all the right things you are doing to help the boy, you can't do it alone. Get proffesional help. Prayers for God's direction in your situation.

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45102: Hey, dont have much time...school started and my days have gotten shorter it seems. I will read the archives later. But wanted to say Hello..

Idelle
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45103: Dear Lucy, bless your little heart! I cannot imagine dealing with such a problem. "I'm scared we're ruining Bryson to help Nick." This is a valid concern. Bryson has a right to expect a calm and peaceful, nurturing family life. While it's admirable that you're trying to help Nicholas, I'm not sure I'd be willing to risk it. Bryson can receive physical damage, as well as emotional damage. I think you're on the right track with seeking psychiatric help for Nicholas, and it may just involve a residential facility for him. In fact, I hope it does. He needs to be in a therapeutic environment, and I don't think your home is it. No offense, I don't mean it like it sounds. I just mean that your home probably represents to him all that he has missed, Bryson seems to him like "the golden child" and he's angry and resentful. Through his own behavior, he has backed himself into a place from which he can't see a path of retreat. It would probably be good for him to be removed to a safe location, with trained counselors, for a while. Most definitely, your family needs a rest from him.

Yelling and screaming, throwing tantrums and such is one thing. Physical violence, shoving you to the floor - that's just not acceptable. I don't know how big this kid is, but if he shoved you down, he's capable of hurting you or hurting Bryson. If you do end up placing him in a therapeutic facility, you can explain that you're doing it for his own sake. Tell him you know that he's having trouble controlling himself right now, but his behavior has become unacceptable, and must be stopped. Tell him you can't afford to let him do something that he's going to regret and feel bad about for the rest of his life, so you're taking steps to prevent it. Let him know you love him, and want him to be a pleasant and functioning member of the family, so he has to go away in order to learn how to control his behavior, and that once he is in control, he can come home.

There's no guarantee that he will ever respond, but he needs to be given the chance. It looks like things are just escalating as they are right now, so a change is indicated. Poor kid, but poor you and Bryson and your husband, as well.

Well, that's it from me. Remember, free advice is usually worth just about what you paid for it! (teehee) Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45104: Lucy, I agree completely with Romeena, especially the part about it not being good for Bryson (I was just afraid to way that in my post). I also, thought of therapeutic facility for him, at least for now. I could be off base here, but I have gotten the feeling from something you posted earlier that you may not be getting the cooperation you need from your husband? Prayers that God will guide and protect you.

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45105: that's supposed to say, "SAY that" in my post. I WILL start proofreading, I promise!

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45106: Lucy, something I neglected to say that I should have is that I really respect you and your husband for being willing to raise your stepson and taking on that responsibility. You must be very giving people. God is with you!

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45107: boy i've missed a lot, didn't i? auh0- it's been a long time since you swept the porch, you haven't lost your touch. tom- such a beautiful poem that i have to copy it- thanks. how are you doing? please let us know how your test comes out. mdc- prayers on your job hunt. if they knew you like we do you'd be govenor. boo- sounds like you have a full plate. prayers that you get a break to regroup at least. millie- prayers for you dear. your an inspiration to so many but don't forget taking care of you, cause we need you here. romeena- the plum called me last night and said he wouldn't vote for me unless i get you to give him a case of carrot juice. what's a politican to do? a chicken in every pot. asa- where are we going to eat at? pies of choice for all of us. lucy, possum and rest of porch colt says hi. been real busy week and will be that way until after this weekend. charlotte tucker probably is busy getting ready for the marigold festival, i wish i could contact her to see if she's going to be at the festival. i plan on being there around noon and that would be a great time with james best being there. jim lindsey. have a great day. colt
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45108: Hey, colt, guess I'll have to get after that little Plum. She knows she's not supposed to be making phone calls. Last time she got on the phone, she called a dating service, and next thing I knew a Chihuahua, a poodle and a Labrador showed up at the front door.

Tom, please let us know how your lab tests came out. We care!

Well, it's lovely outside, low 80's, golden sunshine, and my roses need pruning. I guess I know what I need to do. Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45109: Hi All.
Will the test are back and are just fine.
He say that not a thing that he can fine wrong what me.
Thank GOD for that.
Will now I will work on a puzzle to i git some more wrapper that i'm waiting to come, that I other about three weks ago.
what is at ( 525)ft long now.

love tom

September 06, 2006 - Msg 45110: I don't know who asked my age, but as you know, I'm very personal, but I'm in my 30's.

Barnwannabe.

September 06, 2006 - Msg 45111: Boo: Aunt and Uncle's is a great place!!!

I love it!!!


Lucy: I in no means mean that I want to work in a bar!!! That's what I'm trying to get away from!!! I would really like to go into the teaching perfession, but I would have to go to college again. I'm looking for "normal" work. I'd even settle for some type of school secretary, but I don't know if you have to have certain degrees for that. I just like working with children!!!

Thanks for your prayers, and mine to you continue!!!

Barnwannabe.

September 06, 2006 - Msg 45112: That should read I BY no means want to work in a bar!!! (I'm not a good typer!!!LOL)

BWB.
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45113: Hi folks. Reading up on things. Just marking my spot. Ha More later,
MDC
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45114: Hey BWB, You almost sounded like Emma Watson up there saying you are in your 30's. You just needed to add "and I'll admit it!"

Glad your tests came back good Tom.

Auh2o, you got your snowblower all tuned up and ready for action? I'm doing mine this weekend. I just wish I could figure out some way to get Boo on the working end of it. I might enjoy winter a lot more that way.

Colt, Spot, whats fer dinner? I'm famished! BTW, is it dinner or supper at your house? We always call it dinner here, but I like the way supper sounds and am considering changing my ways. Any thoughts on it anyone?

Asa
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45115: HA HA ASA!!! I don't personally see anything wrong with calling it supper!!!

Barnwannabe.
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45116: Gosh hope we eat somewhere!..hey Asa,Colt,Boo,Ro,BWB,DWF,Lucy,Mil,auh2o,TOM,Rev and all my porch friends...been to Walmart with Miss Sherry....we are going to the lake tomorrow on the pontoon...her daughter and son Mr Cayden [he is 3]...hope to catch some fish...well its snack time..grilled cheese sandwiches and tomatoe soup!...back in a bit...got to put the mower up...SPOT
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45117:
Hey Folks

About that escaped con I mentioned earlier, there is over 70 State and Local lawmen searching an area about 15 minutes from our humble home. It's a little unnerving but all is well. I'll let y'all know what they find.

Asa-It's funny you bring up snow removal, I was just touching base this past weekend with the fellow who plows our drive. It's a bit to too long and steep to snow blow. We did at our old place. I'll have to confess there is something comforting about watching someone else clear your drive. So, if there is anyway you can work terms out with Boo I think you'll look at winter in a whole new light.

Tom-Nothing wrong with you, great! Now that's a good DR's visit.

Romeena-Well, I think the last of our humming birds are heading back your way. I haven't seen one in a couple of days.

spot- I'm watching "The Hunt for Red October" so the snack was perfect timing.

Howdy-MDC, Idelle, colt, Boo, Lucy, ky girl, & BWB

auh2o

September 06, 2006 - Msg 45118: Good deal auh2o...hey to all again..fed Otis and Opie...got everything ready for the lake tomorrow!..GREAT news TOM!..my friend...Asa you acting right?..hey Idelle...MDC you doing OK?..BWB it was me that asked...Personal? whats a persons age...?..im 46 and not holding!..getting older every day!...well let me vacume...no maid over here!~..SPOT
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45119: Well guess the porch is asleep.......SPOT
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45120:
Howdy porch.... just finished reading today's post. Lots to pray for.

Millie...so good seeing you in your rocking chair. Still praying for you.

Tom...great report!

Lucy...prayers for your family. Please take Ro and Boo's advice and get some professional help.

Spot...catching those crappies again? That's my favorite fresh water fish to eat. Man, it's looking bad for our Braves.

Everyone have a great nights sleep and remember to thank our Lord for all HE has done for us.
-REV.
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45121: I'm awake, SPOT.

Wonderful about your test results, TOM!

ASA, if you can send me a plane ticket I will be happy to come and blow or shovel your snow. Your's too, Auh2o.

It's been a long day! Today Erin was riding her bike under the carport and she got her little toe hooked on the liscence plate of the car and cut it pretty bad. She had to get 3 stitches in it. You should have seen her, she sat there and watched the doctor put in the stiches without a whimper. She's a tough one! Anyway, I wanted to check in but I think I need to go veg-out on the couch for awhile. Later!

Boo

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45122:
Hey Folks

Just checking back, they did make an arrest regarding that local search but it was not the fellow they were looking for.

spot-We have a few things in common. I to find myself getting older and on October 3rd I too will also find myself to be 46. Have fun fishing buddy.

auh2o
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45123:
Hey Rev & Boo.

Boo-You might miss that Texas heat if you're hip deep in snow. But, I will provide Hot Chocolate, with marshmallows.

auh2o
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45124:
AUh20, thanks for the response. Now i see what you were getting at. Here is a TRUE story. Our pastor recently was asked by another reverend if he ever talked about one of the evils of our day- cohabitation, and he said Yes, which he indeed has. The other rev said he never does because he knows that half his congregation is doing it! To me, that says a LOT in what's wrong with the church today. Everyone wants "comfort christianity" instead of the truth! OK, away goes the box again.
BTW, I know that several demoninations do footwashing on the Thursday before Easter.
ASA- what's a snowblower?? haha
In the ep with Mr Tucker, Andy called their afternoon meal "supper".
Prayers for Lucy Millie and all. Lucy, your situation may be beyond porch help. I will pray, but you need to tell your husband that you are at the limit with the situation, and get that boy under control.
Colt-have a good time at the marigold festival. keep opie away from your prize flower.
Spot- good movie, i like the part where the one Rusky talks about Montana!
DWF- the ep about buddy in the petrie home not the best work. ha
PRAYERS FOR YA ALL. Prayer time tonight in one accord. Healing for Millie, Sean, Lucy's family etc.
God Bless,
MDC
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45125:
Looks like it is almost time for a sweep! Who will get the honors this time!? hmmmm
MDC
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45126:
MDC-Boy, I agree with your view on "comfort christianity." I've often joked, to my wife, that our Sunday service is a pot of coffee away from collapse. At times it feels like we spend more time talking about the food pantry, some luncheon, VBS, or the Christmas play than we do listening to the Word. I know those things have their place but it seems more like the Y than a church, at times. Man, do I sound like a grump, better gets some sleep.

night porch,
auh2o
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45127: Hello everyone.

To Barnwannabe Msg 45080, and anyone else looking for a job, check out the following online services that are free to look and search but usually charge a fee if you post a resume:
- MONSTER with over 1,000,000 job listings.
- AMERICA'S JOB BANK with over 950,000 job listings.
- FLIP DOG with over 400,000 job listings.
- CAREER BUILDER with over 300,000 job listings.
- WANTED JOBS

And finally to Rev.. I received all seven of your CD's and am I am listening to them now. I only wish that I had been one or your session musicians. Another thing that amazed me was that your name is associated with nearly every song on the CD's. Do you write the lyrics, or the music, or both?

from Poor Horatio
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45128: Rev yea bad for our team....Horatio you must be a very smart person....SPOT
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45129: so auh2o we are the same age?....SPOT
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45130: Well sure wish I had some fishing buddys on the porch.....prayers to all...SPOT
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45131: Boo, Erin sounds like a good little trooper!

Spot, I used to fish, but don't so much anymore. My Grandma, on my Mom's side, was so cool! She would always take us fishing. I remember one time she took us fishing near the Army base here, and some soldiers were doing some training near us. When they went to "chow", right there near the lake, they invited us to join them, and we did. It was a pretty neat experience, and from what I remember the food wasn't half bad!

-Sterling Holobyte
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45132: Auh20 says, "...our Sunday service is one pot of coffee away from collapse"...heehee, that would be funnier if it were not so sad! Hey, you mean you guys have luncheons AND a christmas play?! We don't have those in our church so you are doing better than us.

MDC, I'm not exactly sure what a snowblower is either but I have an idea...you NEVER see one in my area of the country (or your's, I'll bet). I shoveled snow once in my life when I spent a Christmas in Royal Oak, Michigan with my mom's family. I was 14 and thought it was fun then. I am one of those weird people who like to get cold.

Better go get Erin tucked in. I gave her some Motrin for her toe and she seems to be doing fine. Funny thing was, Bruce came with me to take Erin to get the toe stitched up and he had to leave the room becuase he was about to faint! He had that same look on his face during his vasectomy. hehe

Boo
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45133: I just love to fish Sterling.......he Boo...SPOT
September 06, 2006 - Msg 45134: breakfast will be on Boo!........SPOT
September 07, 2006 - Msg 45135: Well, I've never run a snowblower either, or even seen one, but aren't they a bit like a lawnmower for snow? I guess instead of blades underneath they have a big vacuum thing that sucks the snow up and blows it out through a tube that you can direct to either side? Am I somewhere near right?

Tom, good news on the labs. Glad to hear it. I'm trying to get some gum wrappers for you, but just about no one I know chews gum.

Lucy, one last word on the Nicholas thing, and then I'll keep quiet. I think it's important that you get some serious help for him before he does something that will warrant police intervention. Sounds like he was close to it when he shoved you to the floor. Not only do you not want him to have an encounter like that, but you don't want him to have to carry the guilt of having hurt someone. The day will come when he'll grow up and straighten up, most likely, and it would be too bad if he had a burden like that to carry for the rest of his life.

Age? Ha! It's only a number. I'm 67, and I've earned every wrinkle and gray hair that goes with it, and I don't care who knows it.

In my family, supper was something we ate at home, as in "Mama's cookin' supper", but if you went out to a restaurant, it became "going out to dinner". Anybody else?

Well, I'm off to dreamland. Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena
September 07, 2006 - Msg 45136: Hey Sugarplum!..[or night]..Romeena age means nothing...my dad can woek me to death in the garden and he is 75...you dont look 67 in your pics,,,well back to the tv ...SPOT
September 07, 2006 - Msg 45137: To Lucy Msg 45100, sorry I missed replying earlier. The fact that Nicholas pushed you and knocked you down is very serious. And with him threatening to jump off the balcony is equally serious. When my sister's oldest son got physically violent, she contaced the local police (juvenile department) to stage an "arrest". The officers came down to the house and "arrested" the son, handcuffed him, put him in the squad car, then drove him to the station. They claimed this was tough love. But with your son also talking about suicide, I'm not sure if this would work. Get professional help soon. Or at the very least, speak with a juvenile police officer about other alternatives. Police officers are trained in knowing about what services are available for taxpayers in a munincipality. Don't wait until someone gets hurt or even worse.

from Poor Horatio
September 07, 2006 - Msg 45138: Hey porchsters! Up at 4 today, pain in my hand feels better, so thought I'd catch up with y'all. Once agai, thanks for all the prayers and uplifting words. You don't know how much you've helped me.
Been busy with the kids going back to school, plus the restaurant is humming along. Yesterday I had my i.v. chemo and started back on my oral chemo (2 weeks on, 1 off), so I've been "making hay while the sun shines", so to speak. Lots to do.
BTW, Spot and Sterling, I LOVE to fish, I'll be y'all's fishing buddy. I'm pretty good, too. HaHa!
Boo, your post about washing patients feet touched me. When I'm in the hospital, I've had many discussions with nurses about the "blessing" of this .....it's a real moment from God. Thanks for reminding me.
BWB, regarding your job search, it occurs to me that jobs working with children often require extensive backround checks, and knowing your predilection for privacy, this could pose a problem. Just a thought.
Tom, good news on your tests! Yay!
Lucy, I agree with PH and the others. Get help. This could have lifelong repercussions. Prayers for you, hon.
Asa, here's my experience. Growing up, supper was a large midday lunch...like "Sunday supper", and then a lighter 'dinner' of leftovers and sandwiches was servred later.
APB for Big Maude, Charlotte Tucker(my son took your book to school this week!), Mayberry Deputy, Goober,and Mavis.....
Love to all.
Millie
September 07, 2006 - Msg 45139: strange thing happened, i had a long post typed and just before i was to post it blowie. now what was isaying? lucy, my prayers continue for you also. remember we're only travelers in this world and can only handle each situation as we think is right in gods and our eyes. millie, can you bake a couple of pies for each of the porchsters? i feel a sweet tooth acting up/ anyone else? sterling holobyte- like you i use to fish a lot but now i have them so well trained they just show up at the door and turn themselves in cause they know its just a matter of time before there caught. spot- i use to tell my dad when he out worked me on the farm, that it was only cause he worked me to death as a kid. romeena- don't worry plum only talked to me for a couple of hours but she reversed the charges. good dog. tom, so glad your tests went well. we worry about you when your down. boo- i loved your one pot of coffee away from collapse analogy. why announcements can't be put in the bullitin and let us decypher it is beyond me. poor haratio, have you noticed that all jobs require work? they discriminate against us none worker advocates. ha. well i'd better run computer acting up and a busy week. hello to everyone i missed/ have a blessed day. colt